Issue 164 – Prometheus – MARVELous Times – Revenge!

Greetings Programs. A show heavy on the geek this week. First, tales of photo shoot adventures with Kielen and the Star Pilot’s Revenge. Then, the crew sits with Kaebel Hashitani and talks about the June showing at Sequential Art GalleryWishing You Were Here but… Having A MARVELous Time! with artist and fellow Trekkie Matthew Clark. Then, an in-depth and spoiler-free review of Prometheus. All that, and Aaron yells at everyone for liking the new Quentin Tarantino trailer. Check it!

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Re Star Trek:

Tuvok did go through Pon Farr. Tom Paris rigged up a hologram of his wife, just as they were entering a region of space where holograms were illegal (or Photonic Lifeforms as they called them) due to them rising up against their masters.

Also, the “Flashback” episode of the Maquis was in the 5th season.

“Threshold” never happened.

Also, you should all watch the reviews by SFDebris ( where he reviews episodes of Star Trek, and loves to rip Voyager for the missed potential.

DS9 is the best series of all times. I love “Far Beyond the Stars”. Season 4 of Enterprise was good, but not as good as Seasons 5, 6, or 7 of TNG.

All I have to say is… “Ben Sisko’s Motherfucking Pimp Hand!”

Jamie Jeans

Despite the Nolan Batman love on this show, I have to agree with Keilin King in saying I am not looking forward to the new Batman film. I’m not particularl enthused about seeing another movie where an angry rich white man acts out his aggressions.

I say that partially in jest, but what I’ve always had a problem with since The Dark Knight is this sense that the Nolan Batman films have an underlying current of embarrassment running through them, as though they hate to admit that they’re based on childish comic books when they’re trying to be a super serious, ultra-realistic crime drama.

Compare it to the Avengers, which is just pure, unadulterated joy and having such fun at being superheroes and whatnot, and I’m just not in the mood for dark and dour and serious.

Plus, I have a sneaking suspicion that Catwoman is going to be fridged.

It’s just a feeling I have about it.


I had to think on this one a bit before replying. I believe you’re vastly over-simplifying why Batman has worked for so long. It’s not about an angry white man working out his aggressions on various thugs. He’s a driven character. Driven by a desire to make sure no one has to feel the pain of watching those you love taken before you. To protect those that are not able to protect themselves. Sure, he is a big ‘ol rich WASP. By default, his type of character has to be. I’d be curious to think about your thoughts on Iron Man – The ultra rich, womanizing, ex-weapons dealer that joined the Avenges to attone for his past sins. (Yes, that’s another over simplification for a complex character).

Calling a superhero comic “childish” is also, I believe, an undeserved moniker. Superhero comics can cover all manner of topics and age ranges. They can target young kids and give them heroes to look up to, and they can act as ciphers for larger problems in the world. (See also how Star Trek was able to tackle race and genders issues at the height of the Civil Rights movement…. Not bad for a “childish sci-fi show”).

The Avengers and Dark Knight are tonally different films and that is great. I’m glad. Comic books are a genre and to simply lock all films based on comics into one genre isn’t right. Just like the books themselves, these films tell completely different stories. Yes, Nolan is telling a gritty crime epic and he wanted to use Batman to tells these stories.

As for Catwoman being “fridged”, I doubt it. Now she might get all kinds of busted up…. But I am cool with that and here is why. About 12 years ago. When I was full of rage and fury at comics, I called Gail Simone to task on her writing within Birds of Prey. I called her hypocritical for making a name for herself in comics with her well-thought and very true treatise of Women in Refrigerators. I claimed it was wrong for her to write of such things, only to then write incredibly horrible torture scenes between a bound Black Canary and her captors. I was pissed. I was going to tell the whole world how I had caught the righteous Simone in her own hypocrisy and it was on.

And in the most civil way possible, Simone put me down. What was happening to Black Canary was in no way like a “WiR” moment. Black Canary is a superhero. She choose that life. She willing puts herself in harms so that others may live a safe life. She knows what can happen if the villains get the upper hand. And while she never wishes for the pain and angish, she will never regret the outcome… Because it was all her. And she was right. And I was very lucky that Gail recognized I was just an passionate, if misguided, fan that was trying to make a name for himself. (This was at the earliest days of my blog). Catwoman falls into that category. She doesn’t exist to give Batman a driving force (which is why Catwoman has endured almost as long as Batman, she’s her own character).

I believe Nolan and the crew understand that about the character. She isn’t a female catalyst to suffer assaults so Batman may grow. You can make that argument in regards to Rachel in Dark Knight, and that bothers me, but I don’t see it working with Catwoman.

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